Swine
Flu – Key Understandings
Heidi Hanson 5/3/09
Summary: In the late 1800s,
scientist Antoine Bechamp presents us with a theory that bacteria
and viruses do not cause disease, the condition or “terrain”
of the body, determined by the nourishment of the cells and
their level of pollution/contamination, is what determines
all diseased states. Instead of being recognized as one of
the greatest scientists that ever lived, Bechamp’s work
was suppressed and Pasteur’s faulty science regarding
“germs” was used by politicians and the pharmaceutical
industry to support their motives. In an interview, nutritionist
Aajonus Vonderplanitz PhD elucidates the history, showing
how vaccines are highly poisonous, never prevent disease and
in fact it is vaccines that are responsible for flu deaths
or “epidemics.” Vaccines are created as a means
to cull the population and preserve natural resources for
the elite, as well as to generate massive profits for top
executives in the pharmaceutical business.
The Big Lie
“... in the big lie there is always a certain force
of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always
more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional
nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive
simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to
the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often
tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to
resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come
into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they
would not believe that others could have the impudence to
distort the truth so infamously.” Adolph Hitler
Key Understanding –
a big lie is something “everybody knows” is true,
because historical and scientific evidence have been falsified
to support it, creating a “colossal untruth.”
Myth of the Germ Theory: Antoine Bechamp
and Louis Pasteur, brief synopsis:
Antoine Bechamp was a brilliant French scientist who lived
from 1816 to 1908. Bechamp made significant discoveries about
human biology, amassing a voluminous body of masterful research.
Louis Pasteur was also a French scientist at the time and
plagiarized and corrupted Bechamp’s work, coming up
with the “germ theory.” The pharmaceutical companies
propagandized the germ theory (big lie) to boost profits and
they continue to do so today. They have developed sophisticated
means of manipulating doctors and other health professionals:
dominating medical schools, studies and literature, designing
ego and financial reward systems, inventing obscure “scientific”
“big words” for various things they make, employing
endless repetition, and putting people under stress and fear
so they lose the ability to think well. Bechamp’s work
was replicated by other reputable scientists, and those scientists
were suppressed. The entire history can be reviewed at this
excellent squidoo lens:
http://www.squidoo.com/bechamp
A striking difference exists between Bechamp’s
rigorous, highly intelligent approach to scientific research,
and Pasteur who was careless, without ethics, and always angling
for popularity and acclaim:
“The difference between Bechamp and Pasteur is clearly
seen through examining the reports they submitted to the French
Academy of Science (all of which still exist). This leads
to three indisputable and striking conclusions:
- Pasteur's reports on experiments and consequent
deductions are all preceded by Béchamp's, in some
cases by several years. When Pasteur proclaimed to have
found the answer to a pressing question it turns out that
Béchamp had already clearly answered that question.
- The quality control on Pasteur's experiments
was poor and allows for unaccounted interference (which
is invariably completely ignored even when pointed out by
his peers). In contrast, Béchamp had a rigid and
structured approach to his experiments, which allowed him
to answer his contemporaries more clearly and directly.
- The deductions Pasteur made from his experiments
were often far beyond the scope of the actual experiment
and often turned out to be more speculation than science.
As a consequence, Pasteur was caught out on several occasions
changing his interpretation and statements so as to suit
his case. Béchamp, on the other hand, never made
a claim that he had not substantiated with sound scientific
proof.
http://www.squidoo.com/bechamp
Other scientists since who have made similar
observations to those of Bechamp are Wilhelm Reich, Guenther
Endedein, Royal Rife, Gaston Naessens, Phillipa Uwins, Olavi
Kajander and Neva Ciftcioglu.
Break out of the
big lie – Consider
replacing Pasteur’s Sloppy Anti-science with the theories
arising from Bechamp and other scientist’s more rigorous
scientific methods:
- Consider the theory that bacteria
and viruses do not cause disease, terrain does.
Pasteur’s Sloppy Anti-science: Disease is caused
by bacteria and viruses.
In fact, Pasteur later admitted he was wrong about this:
“Pasteur himself recanted it in his private journal,
writing the famous words which were revealed many decades
after his death: "It is not the germ that causes disease
but the terrain in which the germ is found."(squidoo
page)
Bechamp’s Rigorous Science: Disease is caused
by the inner condition or terrain of the cells. What you
eat, breathe, drink, and put on your skin are the primary
factors that determine your body's inner condition.
- Consider the theory that bacteria
and viruses are created from within our bodies, and bacteria
can transform themselves to adapt to the task at hand.
Pasteur’s Sloppy Anti-science: Bacteria and viruses
that exist independent from us can enter and attack us by
natural means (without being injected).
Bechamp’s Rigorous Science: Bacteria are created by
pleomorphism – parts of our cells transform into different
kinds of cleaning agents when needed and these cleaning
agents are bacteria. Cells make viruses to clean up messes
as well. Bacteria and viruses arise as a result of a diseased
condition in order to fix it. They are a symptom, not the
cause.
In a more modern publication, “The authors of Virus
Mania, journalist Torsten Engelbrecht and doctor of internal
medicine Claus Köhnlein, show that alleged contagious
viruses are, in fact, particles produced by the cells themselves
as a consequence of certain stress factors such as drugs.
These particles are then identified by antibody and PCR
tests and interpreted as epidemic-causing viruses by doctors
who have been inoculated for over 100 years by the theory
that microbes are deadly and only modern medications and
vaccines will protect us from virus pandemics.”
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/swine_flu_panic.html
“The concept of pleomorphism is at the heart of Bechamp's
theories. He observed that one sort of bacteria could develop
spontaneously into another type, given a change in the environmental
conditions. For example, it was seen that the diphtheria
bacteria transformed into a coccus. (This is something that
according to Pasteur's theories is impossible).
“According to Bechamp, the microzyma, which was critical
in supporting the life of cells, could be triggered into
pathogenic states, depending on specific changes in the
state of the internal (particularly the blood) environment.
Therefore, the bacteria and other micro-organisms, such
as viruses and fungi, that were being blamed as the cause
of disease, were viewed by Bechamp as being part of nature's
'clean-up crew', breaking down sick tissue and ultimately
decomposing a no-longer-occupied body. Bechamp also viewed
these micro-organisms as 'changing forms' (pleomorphic)
-- from seed to bacterial, viral and fungal states, rather
than being seen as discrete species unto themselves.
“Once these bugs have done the
job, they revert to the 'seed' stage once again, ready to
support new life. The very ground we stand on is teeming
with these fundamental biological units.” http://www.squidoo.com/bechamp
- Consider the theory that viruses
do not transfer between people, they are not contagious
Pasteur’s Sloppy Anti-science: Viruses transfer
from person to person
More Rigorous Science (based on Bechamp and other scientist’s
theories): Viruses arise from within us based on the chemistry
and complex tasks of our body at the time. They are a by-product
of disease which is caused by malnutrition and contamination/pollution.
“Epidemics” arise due to similar types of unhealthy
conditions occurring within a number of people in an area
simultaneously, due mostly to identical poisonous medications
or other pollutants affecting that specific population at
the same time, or due to a cyclical nature of the body’s
own internal cleansing occurring similarly within a certain
population that has biological similarities (every 7 years
for example).
People have been taught to think someone “gave”
them a specific condition, but in fact the condition arose
from within due to lifestyle. If two people share lifestyle
habits – both smoke, use the same medications, have
very similar food choices, breathe the same air, use the
same personal products, possibly do the same recreational
drugs – they will have the same damaging chemicals
within their systems. They may both have the same diseased
condition arise during the same time period, making it seem
like one gave something to the other. If they are measured
for a virus, they could be producing the same “soap”
because the cleanup job – the “mud” is
the same in both because of the similar unhealthy lifestyle
choices creating similar chemical components that the body
is now cleaning.
Symptoms are related to the body trying to cleanse itself.
Each symptom arises from a specific cleansing task and is
the body’s best bet at getting itself back in order.
Warts, skin tads, moles is a jettisoning and encapsulating
of unwanted harmful toxins at the skin’s surface.
Rashes, eczema, herpes, cold sores, pimples, hives, staff,
is removing specific types toxin through the skin. Athletes
foot arises to address specific things exiting the feet,
congestion removes toxins and dead matter, etc. If samples
of the volatile substances exiting the body were taken,
one could track back to specific substances, for example,
soy products, petrochemicals, plastics, aluminum, other
heavy metals, Novocain, dyes, additives, smoke, pesticides,
etc.
Ultimately this is a difference between the focus on “virology”
and “toxicology.” The following commentary shows
the realization dawning that all the physical horrors are
created FIRST by toxins – poisons – that should
not be in a human body (such as vaccines, air pollution,
etc.) BEFORE any virus is produced: “Orthodox virology
omits toxicology, and is thus void. Toxicological causation
is obvious and toxicology is avoided by the media like the
plague. Forget the intellectual, scientific intrigue of
virology. Without toxicology, virology is a mind-trap. Virology
is the deadly virus. Orthodoxy could claim that a "virus"
has any number of fearful characteristics, but those characteristics
are meaningless if the victims are poisoned. Without poisoning,
perhaps the virus is a nutrient. Perhaps there is no virus.
Most likely, the "virus" is harmless human nucleic
acid, rearranged as a response to poisoning, and thus always
a test for said "virus" would be positive during
periods of poisoning." Swine Flu 2009 by Jim West
- Consider the theory that health
does not come by destroying bacteria and viruses.
Pasteur’s Sloppy Anti-science: Health arises when
we fight the enemy and kill it (This is like killing the
janitor mopping the floor because the floor is dirty and
he happens to be standing near it)
Bechamp’s Rigorous Science: Health arises when
we feed the cells and create a health-giving terrain so
nature can do its job of cell regeneration and repair.
Invitation
So the invitation is to consider for a moment that perhaps
we have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies as
a marketing technique.
Consider that perhaps some of the best
scientific minds our planet has ever seen- geniuses, in fact
– have given us a message about health that has been
systematically erased. Consider the possibility that the theory
that we are each generating our own state of health or disease
from WITHIN could be closer to the truth than the theory of
a battle with germs and viruses.
Based on the research, it is more likely
true that nobody is passing any bacteria or viruses around
that infect others. It is actually likely to be biologically
impossible. First, bacteria are omni-present – that
means they are everywhere. There is no way for us to escape
them. Washing hands doesn’t do anything – you
would have to remove a layer of your skin and still there
would be bacteria. They are always in the air we breathe.
And according to these more rigorous and intelligent scientists,
bacteria are generated from within us all the time. Consider
that nature – what nature generates – could be
for our good. All bacteria are beneficial. All viruses are
beneficial. Nature is generally trying for balance and health.
The problems arise when cells are inundated
with man-made toxins and have to create bacteria and viruses
to try to survive the onslaught. When bacteria - microscopic
organisms - and viruses – solvents - are found to be
creating unwanted symptoms that make you uncomfortable, it
means you are eating/breathing/absorbing toxins and need to
clean up your act – clean up your lifestyle –
to give your cells a fighting chance. Give your cells high
quality nutrients. And rest. Take a nap. Let the body follow
its natural rhythms and solutions. Don’t interfere with
nature.
OK Now for more details:
In an interview with Carl Lanore on Super Human Radio Show,
Nutritionist Aajonus Vonderplanitz PhD has offered interesting
theories that further explain the basic biochemical mechanisms
behind bacteria, virus, and disease, and explain the Swine
Flu.
Radio Interview with Aajonus on Superhuman
Radio*
Date: 28 Apr 2009
Host: Carl Lenore
Carl Lenore: Welcome
back to Superhuman Radio. You know, all over the internet
and every news media outlet out there, everybody is talking
about the swine flu. Actually it's probably causing quite
a bit of stir amongst most people. Several people I've talked
to jokingly said, "Gee, I hope I don't get it."
It just arrives on the scene out of nowhere. And it is kind
of suspicious. And my guest today is the keeper of the native
nutrition flame, none other than Aajonus Vonderplanitz. How
are you doing?
Aajonus: Fine, how about
you?
Carl: Very good. Very
good. Eating raw. Eating raw.
Aajonus: Yes.
Carl: Anyway, I received
an interesting e-mail from you and I looked at it and I thought,
“Hmmm, this really deserves some attention”. So,
we're going to talk about this theory that you have about
what's going on. First of all, one of the things that I was
amazed at, that I learned about in the e-mail, is the nature
of these viruses. Viruses are not living things, are they?
Aajonus: No, viruses
are not living things. They are not microbes. They are fractionated
animal proteins in solvent solution. Therefore RNA and DNA
of that animal tissue are present and usually can be determined.
Now, you cannot transfer animal tissue of that nature or any
kind of an animal flu from human to human. A flu is a solvent
detoxification. A cold is normally a bacterial detoxification
where janitorial microbes eat damaged tissue/waste product.
Janitorial bacteria can consume about 50 times their weight
in twenty-four hours. From that organic tissue consumed, bacteria
produce waste products about one to five percent. Imagine
us eating 50 pounds of food in one day and having one to five
pound of feces and urine. We would be very efficient eaters.
Janitorial microbes are very efficient. I invite colds to
cleanse my body efficiently.
When our tissues are poisoned with chemicals
such as food additives, medication, pollution and any industrial
compound that kills or harms cells and bacteria, janitorial
microbes cannot help us cleanse. Janitorial microbes (certain
bacteria, parasites and fungi) cannot eat poisoned tissue
to eliminate intercellular waste so our bodies use viral detoxification,
which we call flu. Our bodies' cells have to make specific
solvents (virus) to fractionate chemically toxic tissue. For
example, animal cells can create a specific virus to cleanse
veins in a particular area of themselves, whether it be neurological,
lymphatic, or blood veins. Our cells manufacture specific
cleansing viruses for specific cells in particular areas in
the bodies. Our cells can make about 300,000 types of viruses
that are specific to tissue within cells for all varieties
of cells so that the whole cell's integrity isn't compromised,
so that whole cells don't die. Now, at no time, does it ever
get to the point where you have more than, let’s say,
three viruses at a particular time in any particular body.
If you’re in a laboratory looking
at virus, you will not find any nucleus, respiratory, circulatory,
digestive or reproductive systems. I reiterate, viruses are
not alive. That’s like saying soap is alive and contagious.
Viruses are solvents, just like fractionating enzymes, they
dissolve waste. Now, what happens when you use a solvent?
You use water, which is also a solvent, our universal solvent.
Rain dissolves rock so plants can eat.
So water is our main solvent. If you look in an archeological
book, the first thing listed under solvents is water. So we
mix solvents with water to dissolve substances.
Now let’s have a clear coherent
look at swine flu. A pig will only created a virus when its
tissues become so toxic from processed feed, vaccines, antibiotics
and other medication, and industrial chemicals such as we
find in factory farms. Like us, those pigs are too toxic to
use their natural microbial janitors.
We can have about 300,000 varieties of
swine flu just like we can have approximately 300,000 varieties
of human flu because of the complexity of animal tissue throughout
the body. However, they cannot cross species. We cannot get
a swine flu, per se. If a person who takes care of toxically
grown pigs, such as in factory farms and the pigs have a lot
of dandruff that the person inhales, that person will create
his/her own human virus to dissolve inhaled chemically toxic
swine tissue. If the dissolved swine RNA tissue is analyzed
in that person’s waste, they will call it swine flu.
However, it is different from an actual pig's flu. Therefore,
it is not truly swine flu but human flu eliminating swine
waste tissue.
Now, rarely do our bodies ever get to
the point where you produce more than, let’s say, three
viruses at a particular time in any particular area of our
bodies. If you’re in a laboratory looking at viruses,
there’s nothing live there. You’ve got soaps -
you’ve got solvents, just like we have soaps and solvents
to dissolve grease off of your garage floor from your car.
Now, what happens when you use a solvent? You use water in
to enhance the solvent effect of the soap because water is
the main solvent on this planet.
Carl: Universal solvent.
Aajonus: Rain dissolves
rock so plants can eat. So water is our main solvent. If you
look in an archeological book, the first thing listed under
solvent is water. So we mix a compound of proteins or chemicals,
which with water create a fractionation or dissolution of
substance. In this particular case of swine flu, you’re
talking about a specific tissue of a pig. And, of course,
a pig is not going to have a virus unless it is so toxic from
toxic feed, vaccines and all kinds of medication, that it
can’t use its natural microbial cleansings.
Carl: And that obviously
is happening because if you have ever seen animal husbandry,
how it relates to swine – I mean they feed them garbage,
they literally feed them, you know, garbage – everything
that people throw away that is rotten, they feed it to pigs.
Aajonus: Well, it started
in Egypt and Israel over 6000 years ago. Pigs were used in
the streets. That’s why it was illegal to eat pigs,
not because there was anything wrong with them at first, but
because they would eat anything and clean streets. So, all
the waste products got dumped out the windows and the pigs
went around the streets eating garbage. So, it was illegal
to eat the garbage collectors. But, because people were eating
a lot of cooked foods and throwing contaminated foods out
– let’s say that were left in silver vessels or
lead cups and dishes, then of course pigs became contaminated
with heavy metals. Pigs started to get diseases. It became
politically and religiously illegal to eat pork, not only
because they were garbage collectors but because they were
diseased. Jump to the 20th Century when feed became a big
agricultural money maker, companies started going to other
companies that made processed food, like cereals, getting
the waste products cheaply and then feeding them to pigs.
Carl: Right. Like one
of the things they feed to pigs is chicken waste, chicken
feces. People who have chicken farms, they gather all that
chicken waste up – they sell it to both the pig farmers
and the cow farmers and they feed it to those animals.
Aajonus: Yes, but that’s
OK. Pigs and dogs and chickens and some birds eat fecal matter.
As long as the animal isn’t eating feces from chemically
fed and injected animals.
Carl: But, that’s
the issue. That’s the issue.
Aajonus: Yeah. The feces
are pre-digested matter that the body didn’t have time
to absorb all of. So other animals eat those feces and they’re
very healthy unless as I said, the feces is contaminated with
industrial chemicals, including medical.
Carl: So, let’s
get back on track. I’m very intrigued by this. So, swine
flu has arisen because we have sick pigs out there who cannot
-- the necessary microbial response is inadequate for them
to take care of their own bodies so they develop, they manifest
this swine flu. Correct?
Aajonus: Correct. Now
you can have 300,000 varieties of swine flu however, they
cannot cross species.
Carl: So how did we
get swine flu then?
Aajonus: It’s
been made in a factory and injected. Just the way AIDS was
manufactured. AIDS was created at UCLA in 1961 and 62, supposedly
to create cancer in laboratory animals to study cancer.
Carl: OK. I don’t
want to get too deep into that yet. Because I want to just
elaborate one more thing here before we move there. So, in
theory, a virus – first of all there are good viruses,
obviously, as you just described.
Aajonus: All viruses
are good viruses.
Carl: And they’re
obviously necessary responses to something that’s happening
biologically in us.
Aajonus: Correct.
Carl: And so the swine
flu virus or any of the normal viruses that we catch throughout
the years, what are they actually? Do they incubate in our
body and stay dormant until we spread it to someone else.
I’ve never understood where the viruses go. The viruses
are like the cicadas? To me, it’s a mystery. They come
out once every 7 years. But where are they for that 6.9 years
before they come out. Where do viruses reside?
Aajonus: OK. You’re
working under a wrong premise to begin with and you’re
never going to find the answer if you do that. Viruses have
no nucleus. There’s no respiratory system. There’s
no circulatory system. There’s no digestive system.
Viruses are not alive. That’s like saying soap is alive.
They’re not alive. They are solvents. They are soaps.
However, more accurately, they are enzymes to fractionate
tissue for waste elimination.
Carl: So when they are
not making us sick – the bad ones, when the bad ones
are not making us sick, where are they or what are they doing?
Aajonus: What’s
happening is, like I said, we have colds, which are mainly
bacterial, which go feed on toxic tissue that’s been
damaged – we don’t eat well enough, we don’t
eat all raw and therefore we accumulate toxicity. So bacteria
have to come in and eat that waste product because we can’t
keep up with all the waste. OK. So that’s what a cold
is. Flu is mainly viral. Some bacteria may be active during
flu. Some areas of our bodies may not be so contaminated that
bacteria - the natural way that we cleanse with bacteria when
we’re overloaded with toxicity or waste products, will
help us. But when we are so toxic that the bacteria are poisoned
by the tissue, from chemical inundation, then we have to make
solvents. Each cell makes a solvent. Each cell makes a soap
to help clean itself. And it’s a union. It’s like
a factory. All the particular cells get together and say,
“Let’s make this to help clean ourselves.”
So they make enzymes which we will call soap to do that. So
there’s nothing dormant about it. It’s just that
when the accumulation of industrially contaminated waste is
so great and you can’t use microbes then the cells make
solvents, that is, viruses we call flu.
Carl: All right. Let’s take a quick
commercial break. When we come back I want to delve deeper
into the more shocking information which is more associated
with a conspiracy theory, if you will. We’re talking
today to Dr. Aajonus Vonderplanitz. He is the foremost authority
on primal nutrition.
Aajonus: Primal Diet, actually.
Carl: Well, Primal Diet,
you’re right. And that’s actually your web site.
Give your web site real quick, before we go into the break.
Aajonus: Well, I don’t
have a web site, but people carry my information and one of
the web sites is primaldiet.com,
that is my publisher’s website for my published books.
And then WeWant2Live.com.
Carl: OK, stay tuned
we’ll be right back for more superhuman radio.
(Commercial break)
Carl: We’re talking
today with Dr. Aajonus Vonderplanitz about the sudden and
suspicious outbreak of swine flu. He’s got an interesting
theory that we’re going to delve into now. This is going
to get really really meaty. So keep your ears pasted to the
radio. Now, I want to start back at 1976 Aajonus. What happened
in 1976 with the swine flu vaccine?
Aajonus: Well, I was
29 and living in California at the time. And a Dr. Eleanor
McBean, MD. She and Ida Honoroff, who was a consumer advocate
and was nationwide syndicated on 3000 radio networks, showed
that the swine flu was a hoax and that the swine flu vaccine
that Ford and Rockefeller pushed through was dangerous. Rockefeller
was our Vice President and owned controlling stock in many
pharmaceuticals. President Gerald Ford went on TV and received
his swine flu shot. Of course, Nelson Rockefeller didn’t.
Carl: And it did, in
fact. Didn’t some people die, I mean a large number
of people died from the vaccine, isn’t that right?
Aajonus: Well, there
were three that died there at the pole, immediately after
they got it, according to Ida. I did a radio show with her.
She had the figures that showed 2300 elderly people died within
two weeks of the shot as a result of the shot. In other words,
they didn’t have the flu before they got the shot and
then they got the swine flu from the shot.
That is the only way that a human being
who doesn’t work with chemically toxic pigs can get
a swine flu, when it is injected in them. We do not have those
tissues. Once an animal product goes into our stomach, it
no longer holds the animal’s tissue structure. Our bodies
completely fractionate it and makes it into human tissue.
So there’s no way we can get a swine flu or a bird flu,
avian flu, any other animal flu. Years ago, they used to blame
it on races – you know, the Spanish flu, the Mexican
flu and stuff like that. Then when Rockefeller and Carnegie
started taking over the universities in the early 1900s, shortly
after the Spanish flu incident, they started blaming everything
on animals: monkey flu and monkey AIDS. They’re always
blaming nature. You cannot get a virus into another animal.
Viruses are cellularly produced by cells. So, if a human cell
creates a virus it can only be human flu.
Carl: So there’s
no cross-species –
Aajonus: Of viruses?
As I first state in the show, it’s impossible.
Carl: You can get herpes
from another human being, obviously.
Aajonus: No you can’t.
No, that is false also.
Carl: So, how do you
transfer herpes from one person to another.
Aajonus: They don’t.
That’s also a fallacy. That’s like saying “OK,
the bears in northern Mexico come out of hibernation and then
the next door bears in America come out of hibernation, all
the way through the United States to Canada, all the way up
to Alaska.” So you’re saying that that is a bear
epidemic. Any kind of flu is the same thing. When the climate
and temperature are right, certain tissues will cleanse. They
may have a 7-years cycle. They may have a 6-months cycle.
It depends upon the tissue and how contaminated it is. If
certain tissue needs to cleanse every two years, our bodies
will create, if waste tissue is too toxic for mircrobes, our
bodies will create a solvent (a virus) that fractionates and
cleanses that particular tissue every two years, every 6 months,
every 3 months, every 7 years, every 12 years, depending upon
that tissue and how contaminated it is. The myth that herpes
is contagious is pharmaceutical industry fiction to scare
you into taking medication.
Carl: So, in other words,
if someone has, let’s say a genital herpes, wouldn’t
they be able to transfer it to someone else, especially if
it’s a man to a woman since the inside of the vagina
is basically like mucous membrane – it doesn’t
have the same barrier as – like it doesn’t have
a stratum corneum like outer dermis does. Couldn’t you
transfer it that way then?
Aajonus: Well, do you
think soap is contagious?
Carl: No, it’s
not, I use it.
Aajonus: OK, soap isn’t
contagious. Solvents are not contagious. However, I can inject
it into you.
Carl: And then.
Aajonus: And then you
would get sick. And that’s the only way people can get
swine flu, is if they’ve taken an animal, a pig tissue,
grown it in a toxic environment and then the swine cells create
a virus to break itself down. You can inject it into a human
and then you will find there’s actual swine tissue in
there.
Carl: Which is where
the virus would have a place to reside then.
Aajonus: No, there’s
no place to reside, because they’re not alive to reside.
It’s just that you have an industrially toxic waste
product that now the body has to clean out of the body. The
body is going to be very alarmed because you’ve got
foreign tissue injected into the body.
That’s why Guillain-Barre disease
and anaphylactic shock occur when you people are injected
with foreign debris, foreign tissue. It goes into shock. You
can even die from the shock of foreign tissue being injected
into you.
Carl: All right. Let
me ask you a question now. In the e-mail that you sent me
you postulated that perhaps some of this vaccine that was
created back in 1976, which killed so many people, it has
just been vaulted, it has not been destroyed, you say. Correct?
Aajonus: Correct. They
were supposed to destroy it, but my understanding from one
laboratory technician that I know who works at that lab, they
put it in a vault.
Carl: Why? That makes
no sense to me, why they would vault something that killed
people.
Aajonus: Because there
seems to be certain people out there who want to hurt us.
Even President Kennedy, a month before he died said in a speech:
there is an elitist secret society that intends to get rid
of and annihilate certain people and control the world. You
know, the Bush family was connected with Hitler. They helped
finance Hitler. They’re into annihilating people, destroying
races and stuff like that. Kennedy was rooted in that affluent
society with many of those ruthless people who intend to destroy
a lot of the population as soon as resources became very low.
And the resources are getting pretty low and we’ve got
6 billion on the planet. According to some of the information
that’s available to us, they want to get rid of 4 billion
people.
Carl: So this is all
part of the New World Order process that’s occurring
supposedly here.
Aajonus: Some people
call it New World Order. Other people call it other things:
Skull and Bones groups from Yale. So that’s part of
it. And they gave the task of looking at overpopulation to
Henry Kissinger back in the ‘60s. He wrote a paper that’s
about 260 some pages. Kissinger talks about the greatest way
to get rid of overpopulation is to inject people with contaminated
medications.
Carl: Really! He wrote
that?
Aajonus: Yes. And you
can look at the paper, look under “overpopulation, Henry
Kissinger”. Run a search engine and you’ll come
up with that paper. And then that was given to the NSA, National
Security Administration, military and government secret services.
They all voted on a particular proposition – I forgot
the number: 281, something like that - that gave the military
and secret agencies the right to start biological warfare
and experiment on US citizens.
Carl: So, now this vaccine
that was manufactured that killed all those people that has
since been vaulted for no apparent good reason, how would
it have found its way –
Aajonus: No, the apparent
reason is that they want to re-use it.
Carl: No, no I’m
saying that that’s a reason, it’s not a good reason.
Aajonus: You mean it’s
not a healthy and a compassionate and a humanitarian idea.
Carl: Right, it’s
sinister. It’s a sinister reason. So, how does it find
it’s way to Mexico.
Aajonus: Well, a few
months ago, the Mexican government gave out free flu vaccines.
Carl: That’s what
I was going to ask: were these people vaccinated?
Aajonus: Yes, so obviously
they were given this -- some of the swine flu vaccine was
taken out of the vault, given to the Mexican authorities,
probably with a lot of money in their pockets and they gave
it to some clinics and then it was being injected into people.
And then when people got such a reaction, then they found
swine tissue in their bloodstream and in their kidneys maybe
and their bladders. So they found it. And then you have to
understand that the media campaign was so fast.
Carl: Oh, I know, it’s
explosive.
Aajonus: It already
had to have been set up. They were already ready for the cases
to be discovered. You can’t have 85 cases show up and
all of a sudden, “Oh my god, we’ve got an epidemic
on our hands that could be a pandemic.” To be reported
they would have to show that they’re very unusual cases.
For laboratories test for something, the laboratory has to
be directed to test for it.
Carl: I was going to
ask you that. They would have had to have been specifically
looking for swine flu.
Aajonus: Exactly. Exactly.
So this has all been set up. It’s an old media campaign
to sell what? They’re trying to sell Donald Rumsfeld’s
Tamiflu and resell the old swine flu vaccine. And they’re
going to pull the swine flu out of the vaults again and start
selling the swine flu vaccine.
Carl: I’ve been
getting inundated with e-mails from Canadian pharmacies telling
me to start buying Tamiflu now before it runs out. That’s
amazing you said that! I got 3 e-mails today alone from 3
different Canadian pharmacies!
Aajonus: Yeah. Well
the media is recommending people use Tamiflu to fight against
the swine flu. All you have to do to fight against the swine
flu is never get an injection from a doctor, or an injection
from anybody. The only way you can get any kind of foreign
animal tissue into your body and remains that animals tissue
is by injection.
Carl: Yeah, you’re
right. It makes perfect sense. Makes perfect sense. And we
have to take a quick commercial break. When we come back I
want to talk about something you said earlier in the show.
And that is that the aids epidemic was also manufactured,
very similarly. We’re talking today with Dr. Aajonus
Vonderplanitz about the current situation, the hoax actually,
about swine flu. Stay tuned. We’ll be right back.
(Commercial break)
Carl: We’re talking
today with Aajonus Vonderplanitz about the sudden and suspicious
outbreak of swine flu. And what we’ve learned so far,
for those of you who are just tuning in now, is that the vaccine
that may have shown up on the scene there in Mexico may actually
be the reason for swine flu. Aajonus, you said something at
the beginning of the show that you also put in the e-mail
and I’d like you to elaborate on it. You say that aids
was created in a laboratory.
Aajonus: Yes, in University
of California, Los Angeles, 1961 and ‘62, they combined
waste product from the lymphanomic virus of a sheep and the
leukemic virus of a bovine. The only way you can get other
animal’s virus is like I said, through injection. To
make vaccines, they take animal tissue and put it in a Petri
dish in a contaminated environment, but with enough solution
to keep them alive. So the cells start taking themselves apart
with solvents. That unnatural environment eventually kills
the cells. Those viruses kill the cells because of the unnatural
solution environment. The cells kill themselves trying to
change the unnatural solution into a natural solution because
the cannot thrive in such solution.
Carl: I want to stay
on track here for a second. I want to go back to what we were
talking about in the first half of the show. I want to ask
you to elaborate more about the AIDS virus. The AIDS virus
was created in a lab at UCLA. For what purpose would they
create something like that?
Aajonus: According to
the records that I got to see, discovered by a Dr. Robert
Strecker. I’m a nutritional doctor – I got my
PhD in nutrition. Dr. Strecker has like 4 doctorates and one
is in biochemistry and virology. The records showed that they
incubated cells from those two diseases – the leukemic
virus of a cow (the bovine) and the lymphonomic virus of a
sheep to create a new often deadly biological warfare disease.
However, the mission statement on the report stated that a
different reason.
Carl: So, if they did
that, what is that the reason for it? Were they trying to
come up with a new biohazard, a new biological warfare?
Aajonus: Well, it could
have been the reason, but they put in their paperwork it was
to create cancer in laboratory animals so they could study
cancer. That is very suspicious reasoning to me to come up
with something like that.
Carl: Yeah, of course,
there’s already lots of agents out there, that will
cause spontaneous tumors and cancers in rats.
Aajonus: Exactly, I
mean you could put cadmium in it and you’d have kidney
cancer in weeks. There are lots of ways to cause cancer. So
this was a suspicious reasoning for me. But, it was done.
Dr. Strecker called his brother, who was an attorney and said
“This is where it leads, follow it.” So his brother
checked the NSA, the War Dept and yes that information had
been sent to those departments. It was given the green light
for experimental warfare testing on undesirables. The particular
committees to choose who would be undesirables chose homosexuals.
Now, how could they administer this to only homosexuals to
see the consequences?
Carl: Well, you just
have to find homosexuals who are also intravenous drug users
and then spike the heroin or the speed or whatever they’re
shooting with some of this stuff, I guess.
Aajonus: No, you still
can’t clandestinely isolate much of that population
without exposing the bad people. They analyzed that in Los
Angeles, New York City, Houston and San Francisco, 90% of
the people who were being treated for hepatitis were homosexuals
because they used a lot of drugs that cause liver damage.
So hepatitis is a viral detoxification because there’s
so many chemicals in the liver your bacteria from the liver
can’t clean it. So the liver cells have to make solvents,
which are again viruses. So it makes a self-cleansing substance.
So all of your hepatitis’s are diseases trying to reverse
a toxic condition where the liver is about to stop working
completely. When you get to hepatitis that means your liver
is in terrible shape. No bacteria can help you.
Carl: So you’re
saying they contaminated the hepatitis vaccine?
Aajonus: Hepatitis B
vaccine with this AIDS virus. That’s why 10% of the
population in those cities who got aids were not homosexuals,
they were heterosexuals. Then, they went and put it in the
smallpox vaccine. The US government and the UK government
donated hundreds of millions of dollars of AIDS-contaminated
smallpox vaccines to African countries. Then all of these
do good meaning groups go out and administer, to the poverty
of Africa by giving out and administering smallpox vaccines,
including African children, to save them from smallpox. They
were given this aids virus in the smallpox vaccine. 125 million
were donated. How many cases of aids propped up in Africa
within a year of those vaccines?
Carl: I don’t
know that number, but I remember it was –
Aajonus: 95 million.
75 million people died. Then what the US government and the
UK government did was create an emergency pandemic. They went
to those countries governments and said, “Listen, we
have help for AIDS, we have chemotherapy (which is AZT), we
have chemotherapy that we can help your people with, we can
help you stop this disease, we can treat your people, we’ll
bring you medical help.” However, the catch was that
the African governments would owe the US and Uk governments
lots of money for their help. Now they charged so much money
that no way these countries could pay it back. So when all
was said and done and all these people were dead and very
few people ever came through the AIDS without dying, the US
government and UK government said, “You owe us so much
money. If you can’t pay it, you owe us your country’s
resources.”
Carl: Wow!
Aajonus: So they turned
over the county’s resources to be run by the World Bank.
So the US and UK governments took over 27 African counties
with that AIDS hoax. They used a different type of warfare
to usurp another country’s resources. It’s like
any war, they kill people to take what is not theirs.
Carl: But, it’s
a stealth war, they’re waging a stealth war, almost
like a Trojan Horse war because they are being invited in,
they are being perceived as the saviors, but they are really
the ones creating the problem so they can come in and finish
the job.
Aajonus: Absolutely.
And if you read the book: Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
by John Perkins, it talks about this man who worked for the
US government and the CIA, they went in and they loaned great
amounts of money to foreign countries, foreign governments
that could never pay it back and then would take over their
resources. That’s the same thing they did with this
AIDS caper.
Carl: I want to take
our last commercial break and we’ll come back and wrap
up the show and I want to talk about something that you pointed
out in your e-mail that I never thought about before, but
it makes such perfect sense that I want to expose my listeners
to this. Stay tuned, you’re listening to Superhuman
radio. We’re talking today with Aajonus Vonderplanitz
about the swine flu hoax. Stay tuned. We’ll be right
back.
(Commercial break)
Carl: My guest today
is Aajonus Vonderplanitz. And we’re talking about the
swine flu epidemic or the pandemic that is trying to be pushed
on us right now. Obviously there’s going to be a lot
of vaccines being pushed on us. And that’s what I want
to talk about right now. There’s going to be a lot of
vaccines pushed on us here very shortly. And that’s
another subject you wrote in the e-mail, Aajonus. Something
that I never gave much thought to: I was born in 1958 and
I don’t have the mark on my arm from a polio vaccine
so I don’t know that I ever got it. I remember it was
very popular back then. And you pointed something out that
was really interesting: While people were running to get the
polio vaccine, there were large numbers of people who were
not getting the vaccine and they were not seeing the outbreak
of polio. For instance, the Amish and the Mennonites –
they didn’t go for the polio vaccine back then and their
kids didn’t get polio. And the other interesting things
is all these third world countries why are they not overrun
by polio today if they’re not getting these vaccines?
Aajonus: Well, because
it is another hoax. Polio is a disease that comes out maybe
every 28 years. And it’ll have its peak and diminish.
Sometimes, it will be strong. But it’s usually every
248 years that polio will create a severe reaction in humans.
Polio myelitis, everybody has it, it’s a bacterial detoxification
of the spinal chord. So it usually takes many many generations
before the spinal chord will get that toxic to where a whole
race will have to go through a heavy detoxification at the
same time. That doesn’t mean it’s contagious.
It means that the toxicity builds up in the whole race at
a particular time and everybody needs to cleanse their spinal
chords at the same time. So it’s not a contagious thing.
But the detoxification became necessary right after canned
foods came into being during World War II. So 1945 to 1947,
canned foods became a regular product at supermarkets and
staple in our kitchens. So people were eating tin –
amalgams of metals that were implanting themselves in the
spinal chord. Because the nervous system uses a lot of metallic
minerals to conduct electricity and transfer
Light, many of those free-radical metals coming from tin were
getting into the spinal chord. So by the mid 1950s, we had
a huge amount of cases of polio. And they weren’t in
the people who were eating normal food. They were in the more
affluent neighborhoods where they could afford canned foods,
like my parents. They loved the new era of technology.
So, basically, industry created the need
for polio detoxification. They must have known that was going
to happen because they had the polio vaccine ready to sell
by 1952. They breeded polio tissue from monkey spinal chords.
They would decompose that tissue and then say this is going
to prevent polio. They added liquid mercury, liquid aluminum,
formaldehyde, ether and detergent. Those were just 5 of the
68 ingredients. All the other ingredients are labeled “inert”.
Inert for what? And what is inert matter? It doesn’t
mean it’s non-toxic. It just means that it’s not
indicated as part of the solution for the problem given. But
it’s very toxic material. So you have all of these toxic
substances in vaccines. Now, when the polio vaccine was mandated
in 1958, it was a year after the polio almost became extinct.
It was down to 1% of the normally infected population that
had preceded before it. Not 1% of the whole population. In
1957, polio was down to a mere 1% of the highest rate of infection.
Carl: So they introduced
the vaccine on the heals of it going away, in other words.
Aajonus: Not only the
heals, actually the trail. So they took complete credit for
getting rid of polio. It was already gone.
Carl: And you point
out that in other countries polio was not a problem and they
don’t get polio vaccines.
Aajonus: Correct.
Carl: Do we still give
children polio vaccines today?
Aajonus: Absolutely.
They get 3 in their lifetime, minimum of 3. I developed angina
pectoris and diabetes within days after my third polio vaccine.
Carl: So, you obviously
had a reaction from it. And that’s another thing. They’re
pushing that human papilloma virus vaccine on a lot of young
girls now. And they’re trying to make the parents feel
guilty if they don’t get it. I would never let my kids
get a vaccine of any type whatsoever.
Aajonus: Absolutely.
They’re all poison. And there’s no science that
they ever prevent anything. When I was in Paris, I researched
at the Sorbonne – Pasteur’s material. I had to
have someone help me because I don’t do well in French.
And it was all written in French, of course. And not one of
the animals he ever vaccinated lived. Not one lived after
vaccination! They all died of anaphylactic shock or severe
flus.
Carl: That’s shocking.
And so there’s no real foundation that supports that
these vaccines doing anything then?
Aajonus: Correct. Now
how can you say, “Oh you’re likely to get some
kind of disease and if you take this you’re going to
prevent it”. Many people who get vaccine actually get
the disease to be prevented. In 1958, there were 3 states
and one city that kept records of polio cases. And they found
that the numbers went all the way up to 484% increase in polio,
all of them, all of the cases among people who had received
three or more polio vaccines. So, when you’re injecting
polio tissue into somebody you’re likely to give them
polio.
Carl: I went for a flu
shot when I was a young adult when I lived in Las Vegas –
my mother called me and said “The flu’s going
around, you should go get a flu shot”. I never thought
about it and I thought, “OK, I’ll go”. I
had a flu shot and three days later I had all the symptoms
of a flu. I was sick and down and out for about two days.
Aajonus: You were given
a flu.
Carl: And I thought
to myself, I’m never going to do that again. That would
be stupid.
Aajonus: Absolutely,
it’s stupid. There’s not one person that doesn’t
get sick from a flu vaccine. They may get a little nauseous.
They may have diarrhea, they may have some vomit, they may
get dizzy, they may get very sleepy for days – everybody
has a reaction. Everybody.
Carl: That’s amazing.
Cause everybody’s being given the flu at that point.
Chances are that your reaction is the same reaction you would
come in contact with if you had the straight flu injected
in you anyway. So you would probably survive it anyway. It
really wouldn’t matter.
Aajonus: Correct.
Carl: And really, the
key to all of this, and we come back around it -
Aajonus: Let me also
say one thing that’s very important. There’s a
lot of your listeners who are saying “Well, look at
the Spanish flu vaccine”. The Spanish flu was the first
vaccine ever made. It was given to people all over the world.
Only people who got the vaccine got that deadly flu. The research
was documented by, I forgot the man’s name, in his book
Man’s Correct Diet. It was written by R.B. Pearson in
1921. When he had gathered all the information – he
was an engineer for a health company – he proved that
the vaccine created the disease and 19 of 20 people treated
by the medical profession died.
Carl: That’s the
truth.
Aajonus: The medical
community compounded the contamination with penicillin and
other drugs.
Carl: It’s amazing.
It’s amazing. It just continues to go on. And my biggest
frustration is that medical orthodoxy does not look at people
like people, they just look at us as –
Aajonus: As organisms.
Carl: Yeah, a vehicle
for them to achieve what they want to achieve, which is basically
a parasitic relationship, they want us to depend on them for
ever and ever. And buy their drugs.
Aajonus: And they have
lots of cars and swimming pools and big families and stuff
like that.
Carl: Yeah, it’s
disgusting. So there’s the key. If you never want to
get the swine flu, don’t go get the swine flu vaccine.
There you are.
Aajonus:Don’t
get any injection. You never know what’s in them.
Carl: Well, I inject
myself with testosterone, part of my hormone replacement therapy.
Aajonus: No, I’m
talking from medical people.
Carl: Yeah, there you
go. And I actually buy my testosterone from a laboratory that
I know of and I trust them implicitly. You’re right.
And the farther that you stay away from most physicians –
there’s a handful of good physicians out there, don’t
get me wrong and they’re not all bad; but the ones that
just follow the company line, you know, they don’t use
their own brains, they just do what the black book says to
do for this and that – those are the ones you have to
stay clear of.
Aajonus: And that’s
99.9% of them are merely pawns of big pharmaceuticals.
Carl: Yeah, Aajonus
now you are currently in Chicago and heading where?
Aajonus: I’ll
be going to Viroqua Wisconsin.
Carl: You’re doing
a seminar there?
Aajonus: Yeah, I’ll
be giving a workshop – a lecture workshop there.
Carl: And what’s
the venue? Where are you going to be?
Aajonus: I will at 321
East Decker St., at the Pleasant Ridge, Old Main Building
there.
Carl: And then where
are you going from Wisconsin?
Aajonus: Then I’m
going to Lodi, New York.
Carl: Oh, wow! There’s
a Lodi in New York?
Aajonus: Yep.
Carl: God, I’ve
lived in New York for most of my life and I never knew there
was a Lodi there.
Aajonus: Yeah, it’s
near Seneca Lake, New York.
Carl: I know where Seneca
Lake is. OK. So now when I sing that song, Stuck in Lodi again,
I can actually relate to it because I lived in New York and
I can sing that song.
Aajonus: There you go.
Carl: Anyway, well listen,
I want to have you back on the show because I want to talk
about raw milk – you were actually in Asia last time,
I think you were in Thailand last time we wanted to get together
on the phone. But, we have to get back to the whole raw milk
thing, to talk about. I’m always pushing my listeners
to find raw milk, drink raw milk. I want to get caught up
with you on what’s going on in California, cause California
kind of sets the stage for the rest of the country, I believe.
Aajonus: Correct, yes.
Carl: OK, well listen
Aajonus I want to thank you very very much for coming on Superhuman
Radio today and talking about this very very important subject.
Aajonus: You’re
very welcome and thank you for having me.
Carl: And then I’ll
be in touch with you in the next couple of weeks and we’ll
get you back on the air to talk about raw milk. OK?
Aajonus: OK, I just
want to know, have you read both of my books yet?
Carl: I read one of
them: We Want to Live. Great book.
Aajonus: And there’s
another one called The Recipe for Living Without Disease.
It has a lot of the science on how raw foods and cooked foods
differ and all the toxicity in cooking foods.
Carl: And people can
get those books at the web sites you gave before, which are
PrimalDiet.com and
WeWant2Live.com.
Aajonus: You’re
right.
Carl: And obviously
a big supporter of my show is none other than Randy Roach,
he’s the one that introduced me to you and he follows
your edicts on nutrition and the guy is stronger, he gets
younger and younger as every year passes, so it obviously
works.
Aajonus: And everybody
on the diet does.
Carl: Well, I eat a
lot of raw now thanks to you too. I still haven’t been
able to eat raw chicken. I just haven’t been able to
accomplish that. But raw meat and raw beef all the time.
Aajonus: Cut it up and
marinate it in some lemon juice and it’ll be the greatest
thing you’ve ever tasted.
Carl: Oh, I’ll
make ceviche out of it. There you go.
Aajonus: Yes.
Carl: All right, Aajonus
thanks so much for coming on Superhuman Radio.
Aajonus: Thank You.
Carl: We’ll see
everybody else tomorrow. Thanks for listening.
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Swine Flu Scare of 2009 http://www.whale.to/vaccine/swine_flu_panic.html
Great Swine Flu Massacre 1976 http://www.whale.to/vaccine/swine_flu_panic.html
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